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MisterB · Feb 17, 2010, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Regina posted this on her journal. I have highlighted part of her statement for additional clarification based on reader input.

Quote:

We would like to address the question that some of you have about the distribution of the May 2009 XTH points, which were distributed on June 18. Technical issues occurred with the May 2009 points distribution, and not everyone received the accurate number of points and some did not receive points.

Like I posted on July 1st, the accurate distribution of points was directly linked to us being able to fix the Xunlai Tournament House. As we have made the decision to retire XTH because of the issues with the backend code, this also means that we cannot distribute those points.

Having said that, the Zaishen Order is currently looking into Kun Shao's bookkeeping, and they will assist in sorting out his records--meaning we will put an NPC in game that will give each Guild Wars account a fixed amount of points. Each account can pick up those points from the NPC one time only.

We will let you know once he has arrived on the servers.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:..._February_2010

Free Zaishen keys all around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein

Like Regina said: once on all accounts.
Kun Shao's records where not easy to decipher...

Polgara Val · Feb 17, 2010, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Im sure the people who will get the points will wait another 12 months for them considering the time constraints and work there putting into gw2, have fun waiting ladies and gents.

Pol

Gift3d · Feb 17, 2010, 09:06 PM // 21:06

sweet deal. i have massssssive accounts but only did predictions in may on like 20 of them. hope it's a good amount they give out ;D

chaosincarnate87 · Feb 17, 2010, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Can we cut out the middle man too and just have the person giving the RPs give zkeys instead? would be even more convenient

... but thanks in advance for the RPs. and if its a fixed amount what is the amount... and is it EVERY account or just every account that did the preds in may?

Ariena Najea · Feb 17, 2010, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Sounds good to me!

Needed a few more RPs for weapons =)

MagmaRed · Feb 17, 2010, 09:29 PM // 21:29

"Having said that, the Zaishen Order is currently looking into Kun Shao's bookkeeping, and they will assist in sorting out his records..."

Sounds to me like they plan on awarding the points to people who got the wrong amount or none at all. Does not sound like they are giving EVERYONE points. Giving everyone points is not fixing the problem that has people upset, it contributes to that problem.

1) Person X got the correct amount of points, had no problems.
2) Person Y got the incorrect amount of points, and still needs more.
3) Person Z got no points, and needs them all.

If they give out the same amount of points, not only are 2 of those groups still slighted, but people who should have gotten none are now getting a benefit they should not.

My guess is this will end up causing another error which will delay things getting fixed even more, and they will make more people mad. Just give up Anet. Close down XTH and ignore the many of us waiting for out points. We dont' need them, we just want them. But I want a game that functions more than those silly points.

MisterB · Feb 17, 2010, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Well, she did say each GW account, so that seems clear enough, although I can see how the first paragraph can imply that only accounts involved in the May XTH would get points. Hopefully Regina can clarify that. I just hope they test the one time only provision so we don't have a server rollback from some bug/exploit or whatnot.

To clarify my interpretation: All GW accounts receive X points.

Trader of Secrets · Feb 17, 2010, 09:42 PM // 21:42

god i hope this doesnt take forever to do.

MagmaRed · Feb 17, 2010, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

To clarify my interpretation: All GW accounts receive X points.

That may be, but I hope not. It would be nice to receive some free stuff, but the problem still exists that people didn't receive what they were supposed to. Let me set a story for you.

You work with 100 people in a factory. On pay day, you get only half your pay check, along with 50 other people. 30 People got no pay check at all, and only 20 people got their full paycheck. Each person should have received the same $100.

A month later, the company issues a reimbursement for the problem. Each employee gets $25.

You still got shafted $25, and had to wait a month to get that much. 30 people for shafted $75. And 20 people got a BONUS of $25 for your inconvenience. Worse, the company also gave $25 to everyone who lived in the city where your factory is at, yet didn't get you your $100 yet.

Do you see the problem giving EVERYONE free points can cause?

talon994 · Feb 17, 2010, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Hurry Hurry Hurry Hurry Hurry Anet.

Wyndy · Feb 17, 2010, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Thanks for the update. I had written off getting my just desserts.

Eragon Zarroc · Feb 17, 2010, 09:57 PM // 21:57

woohoo for free keys

dsielschott · Feb 17, 2010, 09:59 PM // 21:59

thanks for the points, hope they give to everyone.....and if not o well...
and to all you still complaining about the points STOP holy crap just shut up you are gettin FREE STUFF, don't complain about that, and if you want to complain give me your free stuff, cause I will take anything that is....what was that again.....o ya FREE!!!

Aldric · Feb 17, 2010, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

That may be, but I hope not. It would be nice to receive some free stuff, but the problem still exists that people didn't receive what they were supposed to. Let me set a story for you.

You work with 100 people in a factory. On pay day, you get only half your pay check, along with 50 other people. 30 People got no pay check at all, and only 20 people got their full paycheck. Each person should have received the same $100.

A month later, the company issues a reimbursement for the problem. Each employee gets $25.

You still got shafted $25, and had to wait a month to get that much. 30 people for shafted $75. And 20 people got a BONUS of $25 for your inconvenience. Worse, the company also gave $25 to everyone who lived in the city where your factory is at, yet didn't get you your $100 yet.

Do you see the problem giving EVERYONE free points can cause?

unless everyone gets a £100 freebie. then at least everyone got at least the minimum that they should have

go cubs · Feb 17, 2010, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

That may be, but I hope not. It would be nice to receive some free stuff, but the problem still exists that people didn't receive what they were supposed to. Let me set a story for you.

You work with 100 people in a factory. On pay day, you get only half your pay check, along with 50 other people. 30 People got no pay check at all, and only 20 people got their full paycheck. Each person should have received the same $100.

A month later, the company issues a reimbursement for the problem. Each employee gets $25.

You still got shafted $25, and had to wait a month to get that much. 30 people for shafted $75. And 20 people got a BONUS of $25 for your inconvenience. Worse, the company also gave $25 to everyone who lived in the city where your factory is at, yet didn't get you your $100 yet.

Do you see the problem giving EVERYONE free points can cause?

so your saying for them to give up so no one gets the money? Would you rather get $0 or $25? I'd still be mad but I'd rather get the $25 than $0

Gunnar Ironbow · Feb 17, 2010, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

That may be, but I hope not. It would be nice to receive some free stuff, but the problem still exists that people didn't receive what they were supposed to. Let me set a story for you.

You work with 100 people in a factory. On pay day, you get only half your pay check, along with 50 other people. 30 People got no pay check at all, and only 20 people got their full paycheck. Each person should have received the same $100.

A month later, the company issues a reimbursement for the problem. Each employee gets $25.

You still got shafted $25, and had to wait a month to get that much. 30 people for shafted $75. And 20 people got a BONUS of $25 for your inconvenience. Worse, the company also gave $25 to everyone who lived in the city where your factory is at, yet didn't get you your $100 yet.

Do you see the problem giving EVERYONE free points can cause?

Except this is a video game.

Black Metal · Feb 17, 2010, 10:13 PM // 22:13

what a self-inflicted titanic mess this has become

at this point, it's just embarassing

Martin Kerstein · Feb 17, 2010, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Like Regina said: once on all accounts.
Kun Shao's records where not easy to decipher...

FoxBat · Feb 17, 2010, 10:34 PM // 22:34

If all accounts get an even amount, everyone introduces an even amount of zkeys into the system, their value will equally deflate... nothing to be particularly excited about unless you have 20+ accounts like some people.

The data probably exists but they just don't have a reliable way to read & execute it, that was the whole problem with XTH giving wrong points.

Turbo Ginsu · Feb 17, 2010, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by Gift3d

sweet deal. i have massssssive accounts but only did predictions in may on like 20 of them. hope it's a good amount they give out ;D

Yeah, I heard they're being generous and they'll be giving out enough for 2 zkeys each. Far better than we deserve..